In today's episode, we talk about the value of tribalism with Michael Morris, the Chavkin-Chang Professor of Leadership at Columbia Business School and a Professor of Psychology at Columbia University. A renowned expert in leadership, negotiation, and cultural psychology, he has published over 200 articles in leading journals and recently released his book Tribal, exploring how leaders can harness shared cultural identities to unite and mobilize teams. 

Join us for a thought-provoking conversation about the profound role of tribalism in shaping civilization and fostering healthy societies. Why is tribalism more than just a relic of the past? How does the social brain hypothesis explain our innate drive to connect and form groups? Michael Morris sheds light on how human mimicry sets us apart from other species, why tribalism has become such a heated topic, and how it can create vastly different perceptions of reality among people we interact with daily. Discover how politicians leverage tribalism to gain influence, when it becomes toxic to society, and the best ways to navigate relationships in a world divided by differing values. 

What to Listen For

Introduction – 00:00:00

• Why is tribalism a blessing to civilization and a healthy society?


• What is the social brain hypothesis and how does it impact you tribally?

The Hardwiring of Tribalism in Your Brain – 00:12:44

• What are the 3 instincts that are hardwired into your brain?


• How does tribalism protect you, your family, your culture, and nation?


• How does mimicry set humans apart from other animals that also exhibit mimicry?

The Big Deal of Tribalism – 00:23:46

• Why and when did tribalism become a controversial topic?


• Why do certain tribes have such different values? 

How Tribalism Shapes Your Worldview – 00:30:17

• How can tribalism create a completely different perception of reality from people you interact with everyday?


• What factors influence the development or destruction of a tribe?

Tribalism, Politics, and Grass Roots Movements – 00:41:34

• How do politicians leverage tribalism to gain popularity and influence?


• At what point does tribalism become toxic to a society and what’s the best way to handle it when you know people in other tribes?

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